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Posted by vader2, 09-30-2011, 10:19 PM http://videos.webpronews.com/2011/09...cked-up-to-be/
Posted by Cloudstra, 09-30-2011, 11:50 PM lol...so he is against the term and use of the term...big deal.
Posted by FastServ, 10-01-2011, 12:57 AM I guess you didn't watch more than 30 seconds of the video.
Posted by TwineDev, 10-01-2011, 01:12 AM That was actually at the 50second to 1 minute mark... LOL
Posted by TwineDev, 10-01-2011, 01:33 AM As I am watching this, seems not such a "big deal", just a discussion using the difference of terms from years ago to what they mean now. The main discussion, to me seems to be that the term is now generalized, not real definition of it anymore. Sort of like what is a BBS? Back in my early online days (late 80-90's) this what the main interaction, now, may people consider it the same as a forum. With technology, things change... Another example.. How many of you have a UPS? Back in the day, a UPS was NOT what we generally consider a UPS, it was a switchable backup. UPS literally meant Uninterrupted Power Supply back in the day. You computer was 100% running off the battery, and the AC line did nothing but charge the battery. Now, UPS is a generalized term. Times change, you have to be able to adapt to different uses of terms. I work with one customer that uses a cloud environment (if that is what you'd call it). From my standpoint, was interesting as you have multiple log files from different servers feeding out same site. IMO, it is pretty cool how all this works. It is definitely something to watch how it gets used and expands. Being a programmer, I admit, I do like the idea of a single server, so I can track what is going on definitely with that server, vs. "which server did it hit" (had to track and produce reports of internal sabotage by an "former employee", luckily that mainly ended up getting fed from one of the 10 servers we get logs from.) The point towards the end, IMO is common sense with keeping any type of data, cloud, single server, or your own system. Not relying on only one place. Heck I lost contact to my dedicated server for several hours the other day due to the company having a huge goof. I took local copies, put it on another server, redirected traffic for the domain over to it, and all was fine in under an hour. (well as far as customers were concerned. I had to piece some thing back for statistics). All in all, nice little video, not to be taken as the title of this post implies. I'm an old fart (in terms of the internet, I'm 39, been online since 1989), so I always enjoy listening to people that have been around for many years ;-)
Posted by Cloudstra, 10-01-2011, 01:45 AM Oh... I watched the whole video and the OP's thread title doesn't match the video.
Posted by vader2, 10-02-2011, 08:08 PM He's right. Cloud , especially in the hosting business has been little more than a marketing gimmick abused by unethical hosts. "Don't worry you're in our superduooper cloud!" "But there were 8 hours of downtime this month!" "Don't worry you're in the cloud!" It might be better for the webhosting industry to develop some standards because the customers are catching and anything will "cloud" in it will soon be summarily dismissed by customers until standards are developed. Stop bullshitting and provide real value. Last edited by vader2; 10-02-2011 at 08:11 PM.
Posted by arisythila, 10-02-2011, 10:31 PM Yeah, There has been people that have failed at cloud, and there have been people that have succeeded in cloud. I've been offering 'cloud' since before it was called 'cloud' I use to call it grid computing back in the day. I like it better than traditional cloud computing because of the no single points of failures. Some people use it as a gimmick some people live by their own standards. Its a very good idea in any case to review the company you are looking at going with before you buy, Look at their track record. Thanks,
Posted by MannDude, 10-03-2011, 12:05 AM We were actually renting dedicated hypervisors at one point from a 'large' provider's cloud services. The experience was a headache at best. So many issues with their buggy interface, horrible disk performance, IP allocation was a real mess, and the information about the 'cloud' not being consistent from one tech to the next. We were extremely limited in the service we could offer and were at the mercy of the provider when their 'instant live migrations' took over 24 hours. A real mess. Essentially we were just renting dedicated servers from them that used crappy SAN storage and was paying a premium price for a inferior product. Because of that experience, and the non-flexability of the cloud provider before that we decided to just drop our cloud offering 100% until we can actually build our own from the ground up. It appears a lot of companies have adopted the technology but do not implement it properly. Sure, there are providers who do it 'right', I am sure. But we were shelling out a lot of money for a sub-par service from a very reputable provider who appears to have rushed their cloud offering to the market because it wasn't anything worth bragging about and it caused more issues than it solved. /rant
Posted by dediserve, 10-03-2011, 05:50 AM Sounds like you had a poor experience Lots of 'reputable' providers have panicked into getting on the cloud 'bandwagon' rather than take the time to architect something proper. Having said that, architecting properly also takes years of experience and know-how...
Posted by Cloudstra, 10-03-2011, 06:25 AM So who was this 'reputable provider'?
Posted by Stratogen, 10-03-2011, 06:55 AM You hit the nail on the head - most of the hosting providers are launching cloud services without any experience at all. It's a scary time to buy hosting.
Posted by arisythila, 10-03-2011, 11:49 AM Sadly it is. Thats why it all comes down to track record. Look at the companies track record that your looking into, and don't fall into gimmicks. Gimmicks sell, but gimmicks are always not better. There are going to be good providers out there with great uptime, and there are going to be bad providers out there that have consistent downtime over and over again. Do a quick search on the company your planning on going with, I'm sure you will see. Thanks,
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